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3 Jun 2011, 7.13PM
At the recent swearing-in ceremony of the new Cabinet, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong announced the formation of an independent committee to review the basis and level of salaries of the President, Prime Minister, political appointment holders and Members of Parliament.
 
Welcoming what they perceive to be a long overdue move, REACH contributors have hailed the review, with many sharing that they expect to see a downward revision in salaries. Many express support for the notion of comparing political salaries with comparable jobs in the private sector, and call for greater accountability and transparency in the computing of political salaries.
 
Some express cynicism that any real change will come out of the review, believing that this is merely an attempt to appease disenchantment on the ground. Such negative sentiments intensified following a comment by an MP that the salaries paid to Ministers cannot be lower than those of private sector Chief Executive Officers they may come into contact with, so as to maintain their dignity. Contributors strongly disagree with the statement, noting that it implies that dignity is measured only in monetary terms. The subsequent clarification on and apology for the comment received support from many, with some also noting that the remarks did not make the MP any less effective. 
 
Some contributors express reservations about imposing private sector benchmarks on political salaries, noting the inherent differences between the qualities, responsibilities and expectations of leaders in the two respective sectors. Several also believe that it is not appropriate for politicians have to suffer a pay cut to prove their sincerity in serving the people. They raise concerns that this will counter efforts to attract top talents to the Public Service.
 
The credibility of the eight-member Committee set up to review political salaries also came into question, with contributors citing a lack of transparency on how and why the committee members were selected. Some view several Committee members as having close ties to the Government, and wonder whether they could truly be impartial in their work in the committee as a result of such close ties.
 
Despite much speculation that the review is merely an attempt to appease negative sentiments and that no real change will likely result, contributors were forthcoming in their suggestions to the Committee. For instance, many agreed that it is important to set measurable and clearly defined Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) for each job, with salaries being pegged to a formula incorporating these KPIs. Other suggestions include reducing the President’s pay most substantively; removing the pension scheme for political appointees; basing politicians’ salaries on their last drawn salary as well as their individual portfolios; and differentiating between the salaries payable to part-time and full-time MPs.
 
Selected Contributors’ Quotes:
 
“It's a panacea for the public when this pay review is carried out. Of course there will be people questioning the credibility of the committee members. Can't please everyone, but we all expect a downward revision of the minsters' pay.” – Guest, via discussion forum
 
“Pay Ministers what they deserve and not scrimp on what I consider a fairly trivial and petty issue in relation to the bigger picture and our capabilities… I think we should pay them even more if it keeps our Government efficient and clean, and helps recruit and retain the best talent we can possibly have.” – Sun Whye Mun, via email
 
“I don't agree with the rationale that reasonable pay will help to maintain a bit of dignity. Dignity is not and should never be measured by monetary terms. If that's the case, what dignity is there to speak of for those who earn meagre salaries?” – Guest, via discussion forum
 
"It sounds sensible that the last drawn salary should be the benchmark." - minefield99, via discussion forum
 
"This exercise to review Ministerial pay would be futile because it would be viewed by the public as not sincere. To really convince the public, the Review Committee should be nominated by the public rather than selected. In this way, the public would be satisfied with the results of the Review Committee." - Guest, via discussion forum
48871 views  |  10 comments & replies  | 
Guest
3 Jun 2011, 9.38PM
A cabinet minister should not get pay lower than the last drawn salary in the private sector before he became a minister. But what happens if his last drawn salary is much higher than the acceptable ceiling pay for a minister?
Guest
24 Jun 2011, 1.07AM
Most of us in some point of our life may cross path, heard,
met or knew someone that given up high paying job to answer to calling to serve
whether it is religious, political or humanitarian. Personally, I knew a
medical neurosurgeon leaving his well paying job answering the calling to serve
as a pastor, and also came across professional giving up comfortable and high
paying job to join humanitarian mission abroad in third world country.


PM Lee had hit it right on the nail during his swearing
speech that “Politics is not a job or a career promotion.  It is a calling
to serve the larger good of Singapore.” So first thing first, if a person
cannot see that or believe in that, than he or she is unworthy of the noble call
to serve, and it is the ulterior agenda that the person is seeking not the
intent to serve for the larger good of Singapore. So, to answer to the call to
serve must be unconditional, i.e. not one that negotiate for high salary or any
unwillingness to sacrifice to take up office.


So the question on political salaries will be one that
center around “calling to serve” or the keyword “CALLING”, trying to identify the
equivalent of private sectors pays or what the ministers make prior to joining
politics simply betray the principle of “calling to serve”.

 
A permanent secretary is a job or career and it is not a
calling, so we need to pay for talent and compete with private sector for that
talent, a MP or minister is a person whom find a noble cause of wanting “to
serve a larger good of Singapore”, and it is natural that it may not pay as
well as a permanent secretary. When Mr. Michael Bloomberg decided to be mayor
of New York, the city of New York did not to compute his US$18billion net worth
and pay him an equivalent salary. In fact, Mr. Bloomberg has an official salary
of US$195,000 or Arnold Schwarzenegger (when he is California Governor) US$175,000,
their pays are way below the Wall Street managers or Hollywood actors
or actresses respectively.

 
I hope the ministerial salaries review committee, should not
be confused and go out and start reviewing credential and past salaries of
these ministers before joining politic, and looking at the equivalent of
private and public sectors salaries. Instead, I think they should be very focus
in trying to align to the salary to the like of equivalent leaders across the
world.

Guest
4 Jun 2011, 4.05PM
The world is getting strange. When politicians get high pay as cabinet ministers, this attract public attention but when pastors or priests get high pay, the public does not bother and there is no pubic interests.
Guest
14 Jun 2011, 9.27PM
The review is timely  in that it bring back to the point that being a minister is more about servicing the people rather than going for the pay and perks.  But, Singapore should be bold and not be afraid to pay
a reasonably high pay for a talent if the government is convinced that the person can make a big contribution to Singapore by being part of the cabinet. However, we also have to bear in mind nowsaday being a good minister is not about the person being highly qualified and highly paid in the private sector  but about whether the person, beside being knowledgeable in his field of work,  can communicate well and build rapport and trust with Singaporeans so that he can implement unpopular policies that are crucial to the survival of  Singapore in the medium to long run.
Guest
17 Jun 2011, 7.25AM
Hi what most reader or the people serving must not forget is these -- a) who are these people making comments and suggestions. Are these foreginers, PRs or commerical Singaporean - do these people really have a heart for Singaporean and the forever survival of Singapore?b) the motives behind the suggestions or proposals as these may blunt our long term Singaporean interests and in the Short run nothing good for Singapore except the foreigners and these Workers and PRs. - Singaporean Reserves gets depleted.c) Singapore is to day flooded by many Commerical Singaporean those that come accepting citizenships expressly for their own gain rather then for win win situation .
 Make all the gains and tranferring all back to their own country - Wife is not accepting citizenship but retains their own foreign ones, does nothing for singapore but wife works here too and bring mother father sister uncles and any sick relatives here at singapore expenses - buy all forms of Government supplied during under own name and used back home by others, heard this in the grape vien.

Have seen this talk both PRs works in Singapore for more then thirty years , son got all the good studies free or at PR cheap fees and son does not serve NS and also got HUDC Flats - sold HUDC flat now stays in JB and come to work via the cause way - see cheap docs and free almost and benefitted all the way - do you think these are the people that will up Singaporean lives any notch higher ?
So it is important to see who or what makes suggestions for the Government to pick up.
Guest
20 Jun 2011, 5.01PM
Much has been said about foreign talents (FT) and the influx within a short time frame conicided with the increase unemployment rate in Singapore- had deepen citizen's discontent for the government and its policy makers. Two perceptions remains with the low-born, bred Singaporeans:

1. We have been treated as *****ers by so called FT. They came, they raid and they departed- very much against the intent so claimed when they were awarded PR/citizenship.
using the basis of spouse working in Singapore, sent back $$ home earning high interest rate in home country while taking a low interest loan in Singapore to buy properties and then sell it at a higher price- making the margin and go back home to live in adesired lifestyle unimagined as compared to staying in Singapore. Sounds familiar??
2. Local born, studied and work in Singaporeans- were treated like 2nd class citizens in their own country when they compare with the benefits of "wooing Singaporean potential". Example giving scholarship, study funds, housing to foreigners while locals have to depend on other social organization for pocket-lunch fund, school text etc...
Seems alittle short-changed being a Singapore blue? In fact, the foriegners looking at locals, believe they would be better off staying on the fence enjoying these benefits becos' these may be gone when they become a citizen...

We talked also about high salaried ministers- frankly, it is not about high pay if this equates well in their accountability and roles. We also compared to other countries ministers and presidents doing a similiar role with greater challenging situations as compared to a little country like Singapore- making their pay really look obsence and outrageous to the citizens of Singapore.
Guest
13 Jul 2011, 8.47AM
To the Committee,

The salary formula must add in a factor related to the income gap between the middle rich and poor.

Logically, if the income gap continue to increase, there is no reason for any pay increase, in fact it should be reduced. Hence, the formula will have a leveling effect and encouraging effect for all Minister and high level civil servant to strive to improve the lower earner income group and giving them a better chance to catch and survive.

The other economic factor input into the salary formula is to cap increment to inflation and consumer index, if the policy maker cannot contribute to bring down inflation or reduce or reverse the increase in consumer price indexes, then he is not entitle for any increment at all and in fact should reduce their salary (of course we are looking at things within his control and to a certain level things that are not fully under their control.

Guest
16 Aug 2011, 8.06AM
my view, a person good/bad (清廉)

very much depend on their upbringing (人文素养)

getting salary is to tide over the daily expenses,

the WILL to serve the people/country, it is key.

example - social volunteers (there are volunteers that really out there to help people without asking for monetary awards)

there are good and bad people everywhere - it is a matter of whether these good people willing to stand up to serve the country/people or not...
Guest
20 Aug 2011, 10.00PM
Paying extremely high salaries will cause burden to Ministry of Finance as they need more revenues from tax-payers to pay the extreme high pay to the Cabinet cause high taxes on people & expensive HDB flats for profiteering & high cost healthcare services & high GST. We need a balance & reasonably pay to Ministerial level. Singaporeans do not lack of talents as more & more Graduates every years; we cannot let Foreign Talents to govern out country. Be fair & justifiable. Good pay must produce good result for our people & nation; no point paying high pay tio the policy-makers & the citizen people is struggling for a living with expensive housing, healthcare, high cost of living.
Guest
22 Aug 2011, 12.45AM

I wonder why the average Singaporean is fussing about the ministerial pay:

1. How many Singaporeans are actually paying taxes?
2. Who are paying high taxes? Only those who have a steady income and qualify to pay taxes?
3. How many Singapreans are NOT contributing to taxes?

Questions:
1. To Singaporeans who are envious and not happy of the high salaries of the ministers, have they pause to ask themselves if they can do the job of the ministers or Government leaders?

2. It's EASY to be jealous and try to dictate how a minister is paid. Pause and think of how Singapore is what it is today!

3. THERE ARE MANY CITIES In many COUNTRIES which are still in the "TUNNEL of UNDER Construction and STILL have not SEEN the light of a Beautiful City", many have no great transportation, no high ways, no good sanitations, no roofs above their heads,  just because the Government is CORRUPTED,  pocketing billions of dollars in their own pockets.

LET's BE THANKFUL in SINGAPORE - we HAVE NATION RESERVE of CASH and ASSETS and we have GOOD LEADERS in the GOVERNMENT in the last 46 years WORKING VERY HARD to taek care of US and OUR FUTURE.

SINGAPORE is the SAFEST COUNTRY in the world and we should be HAPPY CITIZENS.
- JUST like in a big family - we MUST SEEK TO UNITE, TO HELP ONE ANOTHER AND WORK HARD...

PERHAPS those who DID NOT WORK HARD ENOUGH, LAZY and WAITING just for WELFARE and SPOONFEEDING  -should STOP to think>>>>

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